Nine People (Ann, Ben, Cal, Dot, Ed, Fran, Gail, Hal

Short Answer

nine people (Ann, Ben, Cal, Dot, Ed, Fran, Gail, Hal, and Ida) are in a room. Five of them
stand in a row for a picture.
-In how many ways can this be done if Ann and Ben are in the picture, but not standing next to each other?